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LFCNY's Conor Brennan Interviewed by Inside the Six
Posted by boycottstevencohen
at 03:10 AM on August 10, 2009
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Conor Brennan appeared on World Soccer Reader's podcast, Inside the Six. The interview functions as a great summary of the time line of the campaign, from his initial comments in 2006, subsequent reversal, 'getting the mess out of the way', 'bring it on', and ultimately to FFF's abandonment of Cohen.
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Shanklyboy
08:35 PM on September 08, 2009
JM says...
It's all well and good going back and forth about what happened at Hillsborough (I agree 100% with you Alastair, and always have), but what is being deliberately left out here, is that Cohen has already admitted he was wrong. Yet this boycott continues.
Before some stupid douche makes some sarcastic response about this being Steven's 50th apology, I'm not talking about any effing apology. I agree that his apologies are worthless, but before his statement of July 16th, he had never before admitted he was wrong, he had never before conceded that on further examination of the Taylor Report, his views were incorrect.
Yet the boycott goes on. Why?
His apologies are worthless, but this is the first time that he has admitted he was wrong and pledged not to talk about the subject ever again. Given the unholy shitfest that has engulfed him in the last few months, which is entirely unprecedented, I'm inclined to believe him on this. Any sane and reasonable person could see that he's not going down this path again.
So, he's admitted he's wrong, conceded that the Taylor Report is correct, praised Liverpool supporters for their valor that day - yet you?re still harping on about his previous erroneous statements? And you're determined to utterly destroy his livelihood.
Why?
Please, for the love of God, don't say it's because he doesn't mean it. So what? Isn't that the whole point of a boycott? To coerce someone into changing their position through financial pressure? If you wanted him to genuinely have a change of heart, then coercion is a very odd way of going about it. It becomes doubly perplexing, that when he capitulates to the commercial pressure, one of the reasons given for rejecting his reversal, is that it's motivated by money. Ermm???
Why am I not surprised to find that you didn't rush back here following Cohen's recent comments regarding The Taylor Report being a whitewash and that his views on Hillsborough not changing.
This is all of course following the latest apology you have decided to believe.
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Eli
11:47 AM on August 25, 2009
IN the end, this was just a small radio show that many, many people loved. because of their desire to express freedom of speech, some people disagreed with their views. WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST NOT LISTEN
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avvy
08:04 AM on August 22, 2009
I find some of these comments amusing.
I doubt they've even heard the comments peddled by Cohen; he's souting a pack of lies.
A pack of lies Liverpool supporters have been hearing for 20 years.
Yet they continue to back him up like some proxies of his.
I doubt they've even heard the comments peddled by Cohen; he's souting a pack of lies.
A pack of lies Liverpool supporters have been hearing for 20 years.
Yet they continue to back him up like some proxies of his.
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timj
06:53 AM on August 22, 2009
Biil/Geoff,
Just read there message.The Taylor report is fact.what you say is like saying the holocaust is open for interpretation or that hitler was'nt a mass murderer.Bill/Geoff we do not need your or your Cohen croonies to feel soory for the 96.Kind ove feel sorry for you with your warped view ove things.
Rest in peace the 96
Just read there message.The Taylor report is fact.what you say is like saying the holocaust is open for interpretation or that hitler was'nt a mass murderer.Bill/Geoff we do not need your or your Cohen croonies to feel soory for the 96.Kind ove feel sorry for you with your warped view ove things.
Rest in peace the 96
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Adrian
05:03 PM on August 20, 2009
Not getting under your skin am I, Geoff? Ha.
Anyone else thinking that Geoff = Bill =Bob (I make that every waking minute on this site). Same maniacal obsession, same desperation, different IPs (home, office, parents)? That's got to hurt!
Anyone else thinking that Geoff = Bill =Bob (I make that every waking minute on this site). Same maniacal obsession, same desperation, different IPs (home, office, parents)? That's got to hurt!
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Geoff
10:37 AM on August 20, 2009
Adrian says...
I really couldn't give a toss whether the boycott can claim credit though i support it. This is not an ego thing. Cohen's lost another advertiser, his show's on it's knees, Cohen will be off the air soon enough, nice 3-0 victory tonight, and Bill/Bob/Geoff is obviously rattled. All is well.
Not fazed at all. Your best chance of getting rid of him was in May and that ship has long since sailed. By the way, where's the boycott of is it Sports Direct after that shirt fiasco? www.boycottsportsdirect.webs.com has a good ring to it does it not?
Adrian it's nice to see you spending every waking day on this site btw while i've been gone. Fulfilling life you must have.
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Adrian
09:38 PM on August 19, 2009
Bill says...
I definitely sense that Cohen isn't a fan of your team or your fans...but nothing that deserves this sort of action to pull him off of the air.
Ahem, so can it happen or can't it?
You're so rattled it's hilarious. Go on call me that nasty name again.
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Bill
08:32 PM on August 19, 2009
Douches -
Cohen owns his show. So your idea of "getting him off the air" won't happen.
Nice try, though.
Like Liverpool...valid effort, but just can't win in the end.
You disgrace the 96.
Cohen owns his show. So your idea of "getting him off the air" won't happen.
Nice try, though.
Like Liverpool...valid effort, but just can't win in the end.
You disgrace the 96.
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Ivan R.
07:50 PM on August 19, 2009
Bill says...Legend!
Before you take credit (which I am sure you will since you're grasping at straws), WSD CHOSE to part ways with VIP Communications yesterday. Was not your boycott. Although I am sure that you douches will claim that it was...
I enjoy logging on here now to see you all pretend that this campaign has momentum. When you know that it is dying...
And, to see you all act like Chemical Ali and take credit where no credit is due.
Talk about "the lies"...geesh.
Hope you have fun spinning this story. Next you'll probably claim that Grant Wahl has supported the boycott after his book advertising campaign is over. And then you'll probably take credit for the sky being blue and for the Earth being round.
Total idiots.
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Adrian
07:37 PM on August 19, 2009
I really couldn't give a toss whether the boycott can claim credit though i support it. This is not an ego thing. Cohen's lost another advertiser, his show's on it's knees, Cohen will be off the air soon enough, nice 3-0 victory tonight, and Bill/Bob/Geoff is obviously rattled. All is well.
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AlastairCairns
04:56 PM on August 19, 2009
Bill says...
Before you take credit (which I am sure you will since you're grasping at straws), WSD CHOSE to part ways with VIP Communications yesterday. Was not your boycott. Although I am sure that you douches will claim that it was...
I enjoy logging on here now to see you all pretend that this campaign has momentum. When you know that it is dying...
And, to see you all act like Chemical Ali and take credit where no credit is due.
Talk about "the lies"...geesh.
Hope you have fun spinning this story. Next you'll probably claim that Grant Wahl has supported the boycott after his book advertising campaign is over. And then you'll probably take credit for the sky being blue and for the Earth being round.
Total idiots.
Thankyou for your neutral opinion. It's a breath of fresh air.
Why would I need to spin anything. Those on the side of Cohen are saying it was us.
Nick Iannone:
"Hello again everyone. Let me first say hello and welcome to any new site members who have not gotten an email from me before. It seems as though the LFC supporters have pressured VIP Communications, a WSD sponsor, so much that VIP has decided to "take a break" from advertising on the show."
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Bill
11:23 AM on August 19, 2009
Before you take credit (which I am sure you will since you're grasping at straws), WSD CHOSE to part ways with VIP Communications yesterday. Was not your boycott. Although I am sure that you douches will claim that it was...
I enjoy logging on here now to see you all pretend that this campaign has momentum. When you know that it is dying...
And, to see you all act like Chemical Ali and take credit where no credit is due.
Talk about "the lies"...geesh.
Hope you have fun spinning this story. Next you'll probably claim that Grant Wahl has supported the boycott after his book advertising campaign is over. And then you'll probably take credit for the sky being blue and for the Earth being round.
Total idiots.
I enjoy logging on here now to see you all pretend that this campaign has momentum. When you know that it is dying...
And, to see you all act like Chemical Ali and take credit where no credit is due.
Talk about "the lies"...geesh.
Hope you have fun spinning this story. Next you'll probably claim that Grant Wahl has supported the boycott after his book advertising campaign is over. And then you'll probably take credit for the sky being blue and for the Earth being round.
Total idiots.
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JM
05:14 PM on August 17, 2009
It's all well and good going back and forth about what happened at Hillsborough (I agree 100% with you Alastair, and always have), but what is being deliberately left out here, is that Cohen has already admitted he was wrong. Yet this boycott continues.
Before some stupid douche makes some sarcastic response about this being Steven's 50th apology, I'm not talking about any effing apology. I agree that his apologies are worthless, but before his statement of July 16th, he had never before admitted he was wrong, he had never before conceded that on further examination of the Taylor Report, his views were incorrect.
Yet the boycott goes on. Why?
His apologies are worthless, but this is the first time that he has admitted he was wrong and pledged not to talk about the subject ever again. Given the unholy shitfest that has engulfed him in the last few months, which is entirely unprecedented, I'm inclined to believe him on this. Any sane and reasonable person could see that he's not going down this path again.
So, he's admitted he's wrong, conceded that the Taylor Report is correct, praised Liverpool supporters for their valor that day - yet you?re still harping on about his previous erroneous statements? And you're determined to utterly destroy his livelihood.
Why?
Please, for the love of God, don't say it's because he doesn't mean it. So what? Isn't that the whole point of a boycott? To coerce someone into changing their position through financial pressure? If you wanted him to genuinely have a change of heart, then coercion is a very odd way of going about it. It becomes doubly perplexing, that when he capitulates to the commercial pressure, one of the reasons given for rejecting his reversal, is that it's motivated by money. Ermm???
Before some stupid douche makes some sarcastic response about this being Steven's 50th apology, I'm not talking about any effing apology. I agree that his apologies are worthless, but before his statement of July 16th, he had never before admitted he was wrong, he had never before conceded that on further examination of the Taylor Report, his views were incorrect.
Yet the boycott goes on. Why?
His apologies are worthless, but this is the first time that he has admitted he was wrong and pledged not to talk about the subject ever again. Given the unholy shitfest that has engulfed him in the last few months, which is entirely unprecedented, I'm inclined to believe him on this. Any sane and reasonable person could see that he's not going down this path again.
So, he's admitted he's wrong, conceded that the Taylor Report is correct, praised Liverpool supporters for their valor that day - yet you?re still harping on about his previous erroneous statements? And you're determined to utterly destroy his livelihood.
Why?
Please, for the love of God, don't say it's because he doesn't mean it. So what? Isn't that the whole point of a boycott? To coerce someone into changing their position through financial pressure? If you wanted him to genuinely have a change of heart, then coercion is a very odd way of going about it. It becomes doubly perplexing, that when he capitulates to the commercial pressure, one of the reasons given for rejecting his reversal, is that it's motivated by money. Ermm???
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JM
05:10 PM on August 17, 2009
It's all well and good going back and forth about what happened at Hillsborough (I agree 100% with you Alastair, and always have), but what is being deliberately left out here, is that Cohen has already admitted he was wrong. Yet this boycott continues.
Before some stupid douche makes a sarcastic comment about this being Steven's 50th apology, I'm not talking about any effing apology. I agree that his apologies are worthless, but before his statement of July 16th, he had never before admitted he was wrong, he had never before conceded that on further examination of the Taylor Report, his views were incorrect.
Yet the boycott goes on. Why?
His apologies are worthless, but this is the first time that he has admitted he was wrong and pledged not to talk about the subject ever again. Given the unholy shitfest that has engulfed him in the last few months, which is entirely unprecedented, I?m inclined to believe him on this. Any sane and reasonable person could see that he?s not going down this path again.
So, he?s admitted he?s wrong, conceded that the Taylor Report is correct, praised Liverpool supporters for their valor that day?.yet you?re still harping on about his previous erroneous statements? And you?re determined to utterly destroy his livelihood.
Why?
Please, for the love of God, don?t say it?s because he doesn?t mean it. So what? Isn't that the whole point of a boycott? To coerce someone into changing their position through financial pressure? If you wanted him to genuinely have a change of heart, then coercion is a very odd way of going about it. It becomes doubly perplexing, that when he capitulates to the commercial pressure, one of the reasons given for rejecting his reversal, is that it's motivated by money. Ermm???
Before some stupid douche makes a sarcastic comment about this being Steven's 50th apology, I'm not talking about any effing apology. I agree that his apologies are worthless, but before his statement of July 16th, he had never before admitted he was wrong, he had never before conceded that on further examination of the Taylor Report, his views were incorrect.
Yet the boycott goes on. Why?
His apologies are worthless, but this is the first time that he has admitted he was wrong and pledged not to talk about the subject ever again. Given the unholy shitfest that has engulfed him in the last few months, which is entirely unprecedented, I?m inclined to believe him on this. Any sane and reasonable person could see that he?s not going down this path again.
So, he?s admitted he?s wrong, conceded that the Taylor Report is correct, praised Liverpool supporters for their valor that day?.yet you?re still harping on about his previous erroneous statements? And you?re determined to utterly destroy his livelihood.
Why?
Please, for the love of God, don?t say it?s because he doesn?t mean it. So what? Isn't that the whole point of a boycott? To coerce someone into changing their position through financial pressure? If you wanted him to genuinely have a change of heart, then coercion is a very odd way of going about it. It becomes doubly perplexing, that when he capitulates to the commercial pressure, one of the reasons given for rejecting his reversal, is that it's motivated by money. Ermm???
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Ivan R.
11:02 AM on August 17, 2009
Bob says...Please, not another one. This site must set a record for 'neutral' fans who just happen to wander by here only to be 'forced' into taking Cohen's side.
I am a neutral fan of the game......I've never been a Steven Cohen fan or enemy. .......
Bob says...Please no! Anything but that! ANYTHING! Being on the verge of picking a team and then...........NOT PICKING LIVERPOOL!!! Oh, the humanity!Please, anything but that.
Also, I'm no longer a pure neutral b/c while I am on the verge of picking a team to support, I know for sure that it isn't going to be LFC given the atrocious behavior of the LFC boycotters.
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Bob
08:39 AM on August 17, 2009
The boycotters at one point might have had an edge in terms of sympathy with the boycott.
But they've become greedy, self-righteous, and over-zealous...to the point where they are actively attempting to break up one of the best of the few soccer communities in the US all b/c they were personally offended. I am a neutral fan of the game. I've always played, but picked up European football as a spectator about 5 years ago now.
I've never been a Steven Cohen fan or enemy. He's always struck me as hyperbolic at times, but that was his schtick as a radio personality trying to compete for attention in America, a soccer dead zone. European audiences may not know that Cohen is tame compared to the various radio personalities on US talk radio. Cohen is perhaps the first US based soccer commentator who doesn't sound like a dry, whitebread former college soccer player. Like it or not, he brings qualities that somehow have stuck in the American sports landscape.
He's also co-creator of one of the few soccer podcasts/communities that works coming out of the states...very well. WSD's US podcast ratings and overall listenership numbers are consistently remarkable given that it's soccer.
But knowing that, I never took what he said as factual at all. He is largely an entertainment personality where the listener is expected to deal with some of the rhetoric. Which is why it was quite interesting to see the boycott first start out as an "educational" campaign when either a.) nobody cared; or b.) they didn't consider Cohen's commentary factual or otherwise important.
Be that as it may, given the sensitivity of the situation, Cohen's comments were easily offensive and I think the boycotters had a valid gripe in the beginning. But once they got some initial successes and an apology (which they described as half-hearted), they smelled blood and wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than breaking up WSD. Now I've lost all sympathy for the boycotters and wholeheartedly oppose them.
The boycotter's demands have become completely unreasonable, to the point where there should be absolutely no cooperation with them at all.
Also, I'm no longer a pure neutral b/c while I am on the verge of picking a team to support, I know for sure that it isn't going to be LFC given the atrocious behavior of the LFC boycotters.
But they've become greedy, self-righteous, and over-zealous...to the point where they are actively attempting to break up one of the best of the few soccer communities in the US all b/c they were personally offended. I am a neutral fan of the game. I've always played, but picked up European football as a spectator about 5 years ago now.
I've never been a Steven Cohen fan or enemy. He's always struck me as hyperbolic at times, but that was his schtick as a radio personality trying to compete for attention in America, a soccer dead zone. European audiences may not know that Cohen is tame compared to the various radio personalities on US talk radio. Cohen is perhaps the first US based soccer commentator who doesn't sound like a dry, whitebread former college soccer player. Like it or not, he brings qualities that somehow have stuck in the American sports landscape.
He's also co-creator of one of the few soccer podcasts/communities that works coming out of the states...very well. WSD's US podcast ratings and overall listenership numbers are consistently remarkable given that it's soccer.
But knowing that, I never took what he said as factual at all. He is largely an entertainment personality where the listener is expected to deal with some of the rhetoric. Which is why it was quite interesting to see the boycott first start out as an "educational" campaign when either a.) nobody cared; or b.) they didn't consider Cohen's commentary factual or otherwise important.
Be that as it may, given the sensitivity of the situation, Cohen's comments were easily offensive and I think the boycotters had a valid gripe in the beginning. But once they got some initial successes and an apology (which they described as half-hearted), they smelled blood and wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than breaking up WSD. Now I've lost all sympathy for the boycotters and wholeheartedly oppose them.
The boycotter's demands have become completely unreasonable, to the point where there should be absolutely no cooperation with them at all.
Also, I'm no longer a pure neutral b/c while I am on the verge of picking a team to support, I know for sure that it isn't going to be LFC given the atrocious behavior of the LFC boycotters.
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Bill
05:07 PM on August 16, 2009
By the way...those things you reference are not "facts". I have read eyewitness opinions now that do say a large number of fans turned up without tickets. And while you can see some of the activity through CCTV you can't see everything. So it is still possible to be a shared responsibility. But ooh, Adrian, I forgot he crushed my points earlier. Again, you're a douche.
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Bill
05:00 PM on August 16, 2009
Point 3 - pretend to care about a cause that Liverpool fans in the UK care about so they know my name and make me feel like a part of the Club. Maybe I'll even get my name mentioned on LFC's website - that would be my dream.
Adrian, you are just a giant douche bag.
Adrian, you are just a giant douche bag.
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Adrian
04:15 PM on August 16, 2009
Alastair - you really deserve a medal for your patience and tolerance of this joker. You already pummeled into the ground all his points earler in this thread with such dignity and still you give him the time of day! Credit to you.
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